Dufour 365 Grand Large vs 2008 Sabre 452 — Comparison

Dufour 365 Grand Large
VS
2008 Sabre 4522008 Sabre 452

Specifications Side by Side

SpecificationDufour 365 Grand Large2008 Sabre 452
General
ManufacturerDufourSabre
Year2003–20072008–2015
TypeSloopSloop
CountryFranceUSA
DesignerUmberto FelciJim Taylor
Dimensions
LOA10.97 m (36.0 ft)13.72 m (45.0 ft)
LWL9.72 m (31.9 ft)11.58 m (38.0 ft)
Beam3.52 m (11.5 ft)4.09 m (13.4 ft)
Draft1.80 m (5.9 ft)1.98 m (6.5 ft)
Weight
Displacement6,100 kg (13,448 lbs)11,340 kg (25,000 lbs)
Ballast1,850 kg (4,079 lbs)4,309 kg (9,500 lbs)
Sailing
Sail Area57.5 m² (619 ft²)84.0 m² (904 ft²)
Hull MaterialFiberglassFiberglass
Keel TypeFinFin
Engine & Tanks
Engine21 HP75 HP
Fuel Capacity120 L (31.7 gal)227 L (60.0 gal)
Water Capacity210 L (55.5 gal)340 L (89.8 gal)
Accommodation
Berths67
Cabins23

Performance Comparison

SA/D Ratio (Higher = more sail power per displacement)
Dufour 365 Grand Large
17.50
2008 Sabre 452
16.91
Ballast Ratio (Higher = more stability)
Dufour 365 Grand Large
30.33
2008 Sabre 452
38.00
Capsize Ratio (Lower = safer offshore)
Dufour 365 Grand Large
0.77
2008 Sabre 452
0.73
Comfort Ratio (Higher = gentler motion)
Dufour 365 Grand Large
17.21
2008 Sabre 452
17.86

Detailed Comparison

The Dufour 365 Grand Large and 2008 Sabre 452 represent two takes on sloop-rigged sailing. The Dufour 365 Grand Large is a 2000s design by Dufour from France, while the 2008 Sabre 452 is a 2000s offering from Sabre from USA. The Dufour 365 Grand Large was penned by Umberto Felci. The 2008 Sabre 452 was designed by Jim Taylor.

In terms of size, the Dufour 365 Grand Large measures 10.97m (36.0ft) overall with a beam of 3.52m, compared to the 2008 Sabre 452 at 13.72m (45.0ft) with a 4.09m beam. The 2008 Sabre 452 is 2.75m longer than the Dufour 365 Grand Large. The 2008 Sabre 452 displaces approximately 86% more than its counterpart, which significantly affects how each boat handles in different sea states.

Looking at performance, the Dufour 365 Grand Large has good sail power for versatile performance with an SA/D ratio of 17.50 and 57.5 m² of sail area. The 2008 Sabre 452, with an SA/D of 16.91 and 84.0 m² of canvas, offers moderate sail power suitable for relaxed cruising. The Dufour 365 Grand Large has the edge in terms of raw sailing performance.

For comfort and safety, the Dufour 365 Grand Large offers a firm, racing-oriented motion (comfort ratio: 17.2) and excellent capsize resistance suitable for offshore voyaging (capsize ratio: 0.77). The 2008 Sabre 452 has a comfort ratio of 17.9 and a capsize screening value of 0.73. The ballast ratios are 30.3% for the Dufour 365 Grand Large and 38.0% for the 2008 Sabre 452, reflecting their respective approaches to stability.

Below deck, the Dufour 365 Grand Large provides 6 berths in 2 cabins with 210L of water capacity and 120L of fuel. The 2008 Sabre 452 offers 7 berths in 3 cabins with 340L water and 227L fuel capacity.

Verdict

For cruising: The 2008 Sabre 452 is the better choice for comfortable cruising thanks to its higher comfort ratio, offering a gentler motion at sea that crews will appreciate on longer passages.

For racing: The Dufour 365 Grand Large has the performance advantage with its superior SA/D ratio, meaning more sail power relative to its displacement for competitive sailing.

For liveaboard: The 2008 Sabre 452 offers more sleeping accommodation, making it better suited for extended living aboard. Consider water and fuel capacity for extended stays away from marinas.

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