Dufour 460 Grand Large vs 1985 Irwin 38 — Comparison
Specifications Side by Side
| Specification | Dufour 460 Grand Large | 1985 Irwin 38 |
|---|---|---|
| General | ||
| Manufacturer | Dufour | Irwin |
| Year | 2016–2020 | 1985–1991 |
| Type | Sloop | Sloop |
| Country | France | USA |
| Designer | Felci Yacht Design | Ted Irwin |
| Dimensions | ||
| LOA | 14.15 m (46.4 ft) | 11.58 m (38.0 ft) |
| LWL | 12.65 m (41.5 ft) | 9.45 m (31.0 ft) |
| Beam | 4.35 m (14.3 ft) | 3.66 m (12.0 ft) |
| Draft | 2.20 m (7.2 ft) | 1.83 m (6.0 ft) |
| Weight | ||
| Displacement | 11,000 kg (24,251 lbs) | 7,484 kg (16,499 lbs) |
| Ballast | 3,400 kg (7,496 lbs) | 3,175 kg (7,000 lbs) |
| Sailing | ||
| Sail Area | 92.0 m² (990 ft²) | 60.0 m² (646 ft²) |
| Hull Material | Fiberglass | Fiberglass |
| Keel Type | Fin | Fin |
| Engine & Tanks | ||
| Engine | 57 HP | 35 HP |
| Fuel Capacity | 200 L (52.8 gal) | 114 L (30.1 gal) |
| Water Capacity | 430 L (113.6 gal) | 227 L (60.0 gal) |
| Accommodation | ||
| Berths | 10 | 7 |
| Cabins | 3 | 2 |
Performance Comparison
Detailed Comparison
The Dufour 460 Grand Large and 1985 Irwin 38 represent two takes on sloop-rigged sailing. The Dufour 460 Grand Large is a modern design by Dufour from France, while the 1985 Irwin 38 is a 1980s offering from Irwin from USA. The Dufour 460 Grand Large was penned by Felci Yacht Design. The 1985 Irwin 38 was designed by Ted Irwin.
In terms of size, the Dufour 460 Grand Large measures 14.15m (46.4ft) overall with a beam of 4.35m, compared to the 1985 Irwin 38 at 11.58m (38.0ft) with a 3.66m beam. The Dufour 460 Grand Large is 2.57m longer than the 1985 Irwin 38. The Dufour 460 Grand Large displaces approximately 47% more than its counterpart, which significantly affects how each boat handles in different sea states.
Looking at performance, the Dufour 460 Grand Large has good sail power for versatile performance with an SA/D ratio of 18.89 and 92.0 m² of sail area. The 1985 Irwin 38, with an SA/D of 15.93 and 60.0 m² of canvas, offers moderate sail power suitable for relaxed cruising. The Dufour 460 Grand Large has the edge in terms of raw sailing performance.
For comfort and safety, the Dufour 460 Grand Large offers a firm, racing-oriented motion (comfort ratio: 13.9) and excellent capsize resistance suitable for offshore voyaging (capsize ratio: 0.78). The 1985 Irwin 38 has a comfort ratio of 20.1 and a capsize screening value of 0.75. The ballast ratios are 30.9% for the Dufour 460 Grand Large and 42.4% for the 1985 Irwin 38, reflecting their respective approaches to stability.
Below deck, the Dufour 460 Grand Large provides 10 berths in 3 cabins with 430L of water capacity and 200L of fuel. The 1985 Irwin 38 offers 7 berths in 2 cabins with 227L water and 114L fuel capacity.
Verdict
For cruising: The 1985 Irwin 38 is the better choice for comfortable cruising thanks to its higher comfort ratio, offering a gentler motion at sea that crews will appreciate on longer passages.
For racing: The Dufour 460 Grand Large has the performance advantage with its superior SA/D ratio, meaning more sail power relative to its displacement for competitive sailing.
For liveaboard: The Dufour 460 Grand Large offers more sleeping accommodation, making it better suited for extended living aboard. Consider water and fuel capacity for extended stays away from marinas.
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